izens from servihide to the financial elite.rnSurely these benefits far exceed any thatrnmight result from the tax cuts currendyrnproposed by Congress. But don’t holdrnyour breath: Our “representatives” don’trnreally want to reduce the national debt,rnbecause it means easy money to theirrncronies in the financial world —peoplernlike my friend Jack!rnI am a capitalist by virtue of many yearsrnas a top executive in American’s largestrncorporation, General Motors, with responsibilityrnfor the capitalization, profitability,rnand market penetration of thousandsrnof dealers from San Francisco tornBoston. Having “been there,” I knowrnthat the end products of capital (profits,rninterest, dividends, and capital gains) arernmade possible only by people who workrnto produce the goods and services we allrnwant. Those who control capital shouldrnnever assume that they are the “be-all andrnend-all.”rnHistory tells us that when capitalistsrnpresume they have a right to controlrnmoney supplies and to exact unwarrantedrninterest payments from the generalrnpopulace, the people will rise up inrnprotest, even to the point of physical rebellion.rnPaying down the debt may bernthe best way for our political elite to avoidrna repeat of 1776!rnGus R. Stelzer, a former senior executivernat General Motors, is the author of ThernNightmare of Camelot: An Expose ofrnthe Free Trade Trojan Horse.rnThinking AboutrnInternmentrnby John DerbyshirernIam going to ask what Churchill wouldrnhave called some naughty questions,rnand offer some impertinent answers. Irnapologize in advance for the extreme politicalrnincorrectness of what follows. Inrnthe hope of persuading the reader that Irnraise these issues with no pleasure at all, Irnshall preface them with some personalrnnotes. I am a British citizen, lawfully residentrnin the United States. I became eligiblernto apply for naturalization sixrnmonths ago, but have not yet done so —rnpardy from sloth, partly from a dislike ofrndealing with government agencies, partlyrnfrom a lingering sentimental attachmentrnto my own country. My wife—who hasrnapplied for naturalizafion —is a cidzen ofrnmainland China; her father is a memberrnof the Chinese Communist Party. Ourrntwo children are, as they are already tiredrnof being told, half English coal miner,rnhalf Chinese peasant, 100 percent American.rnMost of our friends (along with myrncurrent boss, and three of the people whornreport to me) are mainland Chinese orrnTaiwanese.rnNow let us proceed. The questions Irnwant to address are: hi the increasinglyrnthinkable event of a war between Chinarnand the United States, what can be saidrnabout the loyalties of (a) Chinese nationalsrnin the United States, (b) Taiwanesernnationals in the United States, and (c)rnpeople of the Chinese race (I am translatingrnhere precisely from the commonplacernChinese term han-zu) born andrnraised in the United States? Supposing itrncan fairly be said that some of those loyaltiesrnare doubtful, how should a responsiblernwar-time government act? Which isrnof course equivalent to asking: Howrnshould a responsible peacetime governmentrnplan to act?rnIn the first place, I do not think it at allrnimproper to pose questions of this sort,rnthough I have no doubt many people dornso think and that I shall meet heavy criticismrnfor having posed them. War is arnfierce and desperate business. At thernleast, it is a matter of national prestige; atrnmost, it is a matter of national survival.rnWar between hvo nations with nuclearrnarsenals must always, I think, be regardedrnas in the “at most” category. In such a situation,rnyou do what you have to do, whilerntr’ing to hold on to as much decency andrnlegality as you can spare.rnThe reasons why these questions arernparticularly acute in respect of the Chinesernare, I think, fairly widely known.rnModern war is very technological. Yournneed good soldiers, of course; but you alsornneed good engineers, physicists,rnchemists, mathematicians, computer scientists,rnand —horrible to say, but surelyrntrue—biologists. In the United States today,rnChinese nationals, Taiwanese nationals,rnand ABCs (that is, AmericanbornrnChinese) are massively overrepresentedrnin these disciplines. In manyrnfields, they dominate. An acquaintancernwho studied advanced physics at FloridarnAtlantic University tells me that the otherrnhvo graduate students in her departmentrnwere both mainland Chinese (and, incidentally,rnthat both of them were fundedrnby the U.S. taxpayer, via grants mainlyrnfrom the Departinents of Energy and Defense).rnIn the event of a Sino-Americanrnwar —and assuming that war lastedrnlonger than the flight times of two ICBMrnbarrages—these researchers would posernan acute problem for the authorities.rnI myself live just four miles from ColdrnSpring Harbor lab, a major center of researchrnin microbiology and genetics. Myrnwife is an outgoing sort and makes friendsrnwith other Chinese people when sherncan —people she meets at mothers’rngroups, play groups, the library, and thernsupermarket. Most of them turn out tornbe, or to be married to, researchers atrnCold Spring Harbor. Last summer, wernwere invited to a picnic there (the lab hasrnextensive grounds and is beautifully locatedrnon Long Island’s north shore).rnPractically the only language in evidencernat the picnic was Mandarin. I would estimaternthat at least 60 percent of the participantsrn—researchers and their families —rnwere Chinese. The situation is the samernat other labs—even those doing defensernwork. Wliere do the loyalties of these researchersrnlie?rnSo far as mainland nationals are concernedrn—including the tens of thousandsrnworking in government labs, or pursuingrngraduate studies on government grants —rnI think it can be said with fair certaintyrnthat practically all would favor a Chinesernvictory. Why should anyone think otherwise?rnWho would expect foreign nationalsrnto support their host country over theirrnhomeland? Probing among Chinese colleaguesrnand friends, I find zero spiritualrnattachment to America. As one of themrnput it: “America is not really a country.rnIt’s just a place people come to from allrnover to have a good life.” Many of thernChinese would probably try to return tornChina — though a U.S. government atrnwar would be foolish to allow them to dornso, or to remain in their posts. Internmentrnwould be the only option. Chinesernnationals who have taken U.S. citizenshiprnshould also be regarded as securit)’rnrisks. This sovmds very shocking, ofrncourse. As citizens, do they not have thernsame rights as all other citizens, with thernsingle exception specified in the Constitution?rnWell, yes; but what is one tornthink of a Chinese national like JohnrnHuang, President Clinton’s favoriternfundraiser, who, after becoming naturalized,rnmaintains close business and per-rn42/CHRONICLESrnrnrn